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August 5, 2007

Ways of knowing

Filed under: philosophy — Chaitanya Pullela @ 10:10 am

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He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him

He who knows not, and know that he knows not is a student; teach him

He who knows, and knows not that he knows is asleep; wake him

He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise; follow him

(ancient saying)

What does it mean to “know” or to be “aware” of something ? This thought crossed my mind as i was sipping morning coffee today, sitting in my balcony overlooking a coconut tree.

Broadly speaking, we associate “knowing” with collecting “facts” about a particular object — its attributes, processes and relationships. If we may borrow some terms from computer software jargon, our learning involves coming up with “class definitions” for different kind of objects or phenomena we see around us. Lets take a simple example. A class definition of a coconut tree:


class coconut-tree {

contains classes roots, trunk, leaves, coconuts, …..;

attribute height of the tree, shape of the leaves, …… ;

process breathing { co2 in; o2 out; }

process absorb-minerals { … }

process absorb-water { … }

process photosynthesis { … }

……

}

.. you get the picture. And we can drill down this class to the level of biological units — the cells, analyze the chemical reactions occuring there, or go even further to the level of sub atomic particles. Any coconut tree we see, is an “instance” of this class, and assumes the attributes and processes that are defined in the class.

We humans started off with rudimentary class definitions through observation and maybe some experimentation and analysis. Over the last few hundred years, science has greatly improved our class definitions, through sophisticated experimentation and analysis. We now even have class definitions for things that escape our senses, like x-rays and atoms. So, by “learning”, we mostly mean coming up with more and more class definitions, and the relationships between the classes, and refining the content of the definitions. Ultimately, a collection of “facts” or “ideas” in the brain.

Anyway, as i sipped my coffee, i thought, “This approach is painstakingly slow ! There’s gotta be a better way”. I don’t think science will uncover and perfect all the class definitions in the universe, in my lifetime. Even if it does, it will take more than my lifetime to learn them. Even if i learn them, its not fulfilling ! Knowing “facts” or “truths” does not mean i experience them ! What do i mean ? Few examples: Science tells us the universe is immense .. has billions of galaxies. I understand intellectually, its a huge number, and its inspiring. But what difference does it make, in terms of imagining, between distance-to-the-moon and billions of galaxies ? How can i experience the difference ? Feel the immensity of the universe, not as a thought, but actually ? Science tells me that atoms are incredibly small. But how to actually experience it ? To be at the center of an atom, and “see” the electrons whizzing by ! Is that possible ? Science can tell me all about a bird .. its origins, its genes, its dietary habits etc etc. But can i actually take-on the consciousness of a bird, and experience what it means to be bird ? Let me give the simplest of examples. I see a hungry boy on the street. The fact that i “know” he is hungry is far cry from experiencing the hunger myself.

If we cannot connect with facts on a deeper level, all we end up doing, is bring down even profound truths to our level of being, as mere applications. Take ‘energy mass equivalence”. To most non-scientists, this profound knowledge only means nuclear electricity to power our tools, and nuclear bombs to fight wars. Perhaps this is what Einstein meant by saying “Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal”. Perhaps this what the whole debate on knowledge vs wisdom, is about.

Why are we unable to experience immense truths, even if we “know” them ? Or, is experiencing truths, beyond the realm of human consciousness and humans are “equipped” only to know facts intellectually ? I think we will find some pointers in Indian philosophy (I’ll use this generic term to represent enormous body of work that has come out of India, from ancient scriptures to recent philosophers).

One of the central concepts of Indian philosophy is that our thoughts create an illusion of “self” (subject or “I”), and the world outside as separate “objects”. This illusory division prevents us from experiencing the reality. That our thought-network acts as a barrier, makes both logical and intuitive sense to me. (If anyone is interested in exploring this angle, i suggest Krishnamurti’s works).

In terms of above discussion, i think the collection of scientific facts about “objects” outside, merely reinforces the illusory division. Atleast, it does not do much to erase that division. Scientific facts simply add to our thought-network, thus the “Subject” is still separated from the “Object”. Ofcourse, i do not mean scientific knowledge is useless. It’s quite useful for us to atleast intellectually appreciate the complexity of our world. But the lack of experiencing, still leaves a sense of void.

Now we can naturally segway to the other “way of knowing”. If thoughts create the illusion of “self”, Is it possible to quieten our mind, so that the incessant chatter of thoughts ceases ? What would such a quiet mind lets us “know” ?

I think the first of Patanjali yoga sutras (aphorisms), sums up this “way of knowing”:

Yogah chitta vritti nirodah

Rough translation: Yoga is the cessation of fluctuations (thoughts) of the thinking instrument.

Its indeed interesting that the traditional way of knowing involves collecting facts and ideas in the brain. The meditation way of knowing involves emptying the brain of thoughts.

[ Footnote: Needless to say, this is a complex topic, and there's much room for revisions and additions. For example, what are the implications of experiments in quantum mechanics, to this discussion ? I'll create an open "page" and leave the thread open for updates]

4 Comments »

  1. Jiddu Krishnamurti;

    “There are three monks, who had been sitting in deep meditation for many years amidst the Himalayan snow peaks, never speaking a word, in utter silence. One morning, one of the three suddenly speaks up and says, ‘What a lovely morning this is.’ And he falls silent again. Five years of silence pass, when all at once the second monk speaks up and says, ‘But we could do with some rain.’ There is silence among them for another five years, when suddenly the third monk says, ‘Why can’t you two stop chattering?”

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    Comment by serendipidad — August 24, 2007 @ 8:49 pm | Reply

  2. Two paths to knowledge, by Bhikkhu Bodhi.

    Again, the knowledge to be acquired by the practice of Dhamma differs significantly from that sought by science in several major respects. Most importantly, the knowledge sought is not simply the acquisition of objective information about the constitution and operations of the physical world, but a deep personal insight into the real nature of one’s personal existence. The aim is not to understand reality from the outside, but from the inside, from the perspective of one’s own, living experience. One seeks not factual knowledge, but insight or wisdom, a personal knowledge, inescapably subjective, whose whole value lies in its transformative impact on one’s life. Concern with the outer world, as an object of knowledge, arises only insofar as the outer world is inextricably implicated in experience. As the Buddha says: “It is in this body, with its perception and thought, that I declare is the world, the origin of the world, the cessation of the world, and the way to the cessation of the world.”

    Comment by Chaitanya Pullela — June 28, 2009 @ 2:10 pm | Reply

  3. an interesting book is ‘how god changes your mind. the gist of it is that meditation or contemplation via any dicipline be it budhist or benectine, causes changes in mind chemisry (thus confirmin what many suspected)

    An interesting assertion in the book is how deviant faiths actually disrupt brain chemistry. I couldnt help but
    feel a jibe against i-slam.

    final point is how the book was funded by a khalsa doler-of-funds, and the authors pretty much validated their paymasters threories.

    Comment by Bodhisatva — July 3, 2009 @ 7:52 am | Reply

    • Bodhisatva, Thanks for your thoughts. I haven’t read the book you mention, but iam aware of some ongoing research in that direction .. the affect of mind-training on brain. A while ago, I have seen this google talk by Matthieu Ricard (a scientist turned monk). I think he discusses some of the research in that space.

      Comment by Chaitanya Pullela — July 3, 2009 @ 2:09 pm | Reply


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